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Problems with starting now after relocate
Friday, April 29, 2011 2:07 PM
ok I will try to go into as much detail I can, I decided to relocate the battery into the trunk, and the fuse box (under hood), to the inside of the cab, seems I have 2 wires that did not get hooked back up, one is PNK-Fuse output (Ignition 1), and the other is PNK-ABS enable Relay output(coil), I hooked up EVERY wire in the engine bay, but then again some wires group up and attach to just one solid, everything powers up and car tries to run but I am not getting any spark out of the coils. The best part is the coils were giving me problems before the swap to the trunk, and now I am trying to get car started before I clean up the rest of the wires. my problem is the 2 wires I am nt sure where they go to as like I said all wires are attached, and was thinking a ground, but I checked them all and they are all clean, and where they are suppose to be, also kept the factory ground for battery and grounded it to spot where the battery use to be. Since I did have this problem before where car would not want to spark what am I missing? my head hurts as I tried the K.I.S.S. method but Im sure I am missing something.
1) no spark to any of the coils
2) injectors all fire,
3) all grounds there and/or upgraded
4) battery is grounded nicely
5) every wire(except those 2) are hooked up
6)Im leaning towards a crank sensor, cam sensor, or ECM, but my scan tool wont scan them all

Any Ideas would be great, as I want this POS running as track opening soon, and need my inspection finished. plus also paln to move up again in the quarter-mile list
**If pictures are needed, let me know what of and it can be done

"As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride." -Amen

Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Friday, April 29, 2011 8:04 PM
so did you cut the wires to the fuse box, extend them and run it to the interior? if so every wire should be attached. when i did mine there were no wires that were un attached, and a few of the colors of wires were the same. so if you didnt number each wire on both ends before you cut them. ou could have wires ran to the wrong wires. but all of them should be attached. want to say there were 20 of them. or real close to 20. also you need to use bigger wire then the stock sized wire and keep them as short as possible. found out in pauls car if you dont run large enough wire and you make the run of wire to long you have issues as well. that would be the first thing i checked was the wiring.

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Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Friday, April 29, 2011 10:46 PM
I ran all bigger gauge, and I attached every wire I saw in the engine bey :S

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Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:34 AM
in your first post you said you had two that werent hooked up? so did you attache every fuse on the fuse box? and as i said did you number them or mark each one so that you didnt attach a red wire that powered the solenids to the red wire that sent a signal to some other equipment.

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Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:45 AM
Jason what guage wire did you use to do this?? just wondering as we did some aluminum work in my bay with dzuets fastners and bead rolling but this is still a possibility for me i think.

thanks
jason



Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:46 PM
ya I marked then still have the tape on the 2 I couldnt find the mate to, I will be spending time out there tomorrow, doesnt help that starting problems were intermittent before the relocate

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Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:01 PM
norwood. im not sure off the top of my head. i just looked at the gauge on the stock wire and just used one wire size bigger. there are like 3-4 diffrent sized wires with the stock wiring


AJB how long of wire did you add between the two connections.

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Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:44 PM
ummmm about 1-1.5 feet give or take just to reach under the dash, I still have to put it up under somehow, I used 1-2 gauges thicker to help with the flow, but since been having the problems since before with the spark Im debating changing the crank sensor, as I moved the wires for ignition, and coils are where the battery use to be.

"As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride." -Amen
Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:10 PM
ok I just did some testing, coils ARE getting power without a problem, everything else the needs power is getting it, the problems I had prior was sometimes the car would stall when driving, or stall and reset itself in a second while driving, and sometimes she just wouldn't start at all, so I think will replace the sensor as they are cheap and see what happens, fuel and everything IS there, so if crank sensor doesn't fix it, then not sure could be the Computer, as the ICM there is NOTHING wrong with it at all.coils are basically brand new, so can't be those either as they tested good, grrr, if I don't fix this problem Im going to a FORD lmfao (just kidding)

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Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Monday, May 02, 2011 4:30 AM
well if you used larger wires, only used a foot and a half and connected all the wires properly you shouldn't have an issues with that. i still question the 2 extra wires you have because you shouldnt have had any left over. but the rest of the fuse box sounds good.

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Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Monday, May 02, 2011 7:58 AM
ya thats what I thought Im trying to figure out whats going on there, once I replace crank sensor I will know more, hopefully its not the ecu, and still contemplating to put stereo crap back in the car, as with battery in trunk and my sub box being as big as it is

"As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride." -Amen

Re: Problems with starting now after relocate
Saturday, May 07, 2011 1:35 PM
ok good news she starts now, but have currently abs light, coolant light and evap low curcuit, so not sure where all that coming from

"As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride." -Amen
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