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Sound quality of Show setups?
Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:19 AM
This has been bugging me a little bit recently. How many of you with show setups are tuned for good sound too? I know it sounds like a stupid question. But I've seen a lot of people who fiberglas the most beautiful set up in the trunk and whatever, and are mounting subs inverted on a ring, but with seemingly no regard for volume, or anything. I've seen other boxes where the sub is normally mounted, but in progress pics, there is no actual enclosure for it. Anyone ever give any thought to this? just curious





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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:02 AM
well as for inverting you can get the same sound out by reversing the wires to the terminals prett much.

As for setups, there are some i am sure that the wavelenghts will cancel out, i was messing around one day and fired 2 subs straight at each other with less than a foot apart, and there was next to no bass what so ever.

It all depends on the setup, and size of the box pretty much, if you build the box to the specs and seal it up and the subs arent in destructive wavelength patterns im assuming it will still sound good.



Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:56 PM
uiguy wrote:well as for inverting you can get the same sound out by reversing the wires to the terminals prett much.

Just a question here, but care to explain why you would have to reverse the wires?



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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:26 PM
Quote:

Just a question here, but care to explain why you would have to reverse the wires?


Since the sub is facing into the box, each time a bass note hits the sub would fire into the box. By reversing the wires the sub's cone would go "in" on each hit, which would be out of the box in the inverted orientation.


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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:46 PM
I'm more concerned about the enclosure. Inverting would be great in my case, since I have dual Audiobahn AW1205Q's to go in, and the baskets would look slick. But I was thinking about a full fiberglass setup in the trunk, but each sub needas about 1.3 cubic feet in a sealed box, or about 3 per sub if I go ported. What I guess I'll end up doing, is building a standard box, then fiberglassing around everything to make it look like more than just a box in the trunk. I just noticed that there are a lot of setups where it doesn't even appear that the owner/installer is worried about anything more than how it looks when it's done. Oh well.




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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:08 AM
I am , sound quality first, appearance second

But I truely believe you can look and sound good at the same time, alot of the show ppl just plop down the cash and really have no technical knowledge on what they have or how to tune it they have it just to have it for looks, these ppl are the ones I dont respect at all, and the ones who would get laughed at in sound competition if they ever tried because in SQ you have to do a 5 min presentation on what you have , I saw a guy with a beautiful vette last year lose to some POS S10 all because he had the dollar bills and no skills



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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:42 PM
On the AVIC, it's a folder called "bg" (standing for background). I just tossed the manual for my 7500, go figure. If no one has it by tomorrow, I'll post how after I dl the manual again.




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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:44 PM
pay no attention to that post ^^ lol. I hate having more than one window open lol. my bad.




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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Monday, February 21, 2005 5:01 AM
mine sounds great......key is to get your volumes right when building it....



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Re: Sound quality of Show setups?
Monday, February 21, 2005 2:18 PM
allot of times show setups arent setup to sound good they are just setup to look good, hence the show part of it. the people u should really be asking is those that compete in sq events. tuning a system for everyday driving is completly diffrent then tuning for a sq event. same as building, building a system for sq events is worlds diffrent then show events. and once you get into heavy sq events. most of them are done by shops. and those guys that compete generally will know their systems inside and out. i know guys that now 10x more audio knowledged then me, who pay to have it done, they just dont have the time. for most guys that compete allot of thought goes into the setup. first thing is to get the right volume, second thing is to work that volume into your setup. if u want to do a fiberglass enclosure, you just build it a bit bigger volume wise then u need, then when its done you see how much airspace u have, then fill in the box as needed to get your exact airspace.


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